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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 01:53:00 -
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Been using the net in Canada pretty much since it began and it's always been unlimited with a flat rate, more recently bundled with satellite TV services. Even switched providers a couple times because they all offer the same thing.
Thank you for informing me of this crooked plot, eh.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 03/11/2010 14:33:08
Originally by: Riedle People who use more bandwidth should pay more than those that use less.
Seems to be the same rationale phone companies used to make people pay through the nose for long distance calls. If the infrastructure is already there, aren't things like this just excuses for charging more money?
I'm not against some kind of bandwidth limit to make sure people don't outright abuse it and cause serious network problems, like a terrabyte a month or something, but you're naive if you think the driving motivation behind all this isn't just about making more money, and not so much a case of poor widdle ISPs trying to make ends meet with nasty intenet users taking advantage of them.
Originally by: Marko Riva If you want to make use of a large company's infrastructure that took eons (and tons of cash) to make happen, service and have good quality.
The problem here is that they're now trying to limit competition and force a situation where they can gouge customers for as much as they want, under the false pretense a gigabyte has weight and costs money to move, and the more gigabytes moved the more it costs. Like freight or something.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Riedle Now LD is basically free. coincidence? I think not.
LD is basically free now because the internet allows people to do the same thing for literally free.
Quote: There is absolutely nothing wrong with a company wanting to make more money. In the end, the consumer decides.
Ok, i'll just go to their competitor who offers better prices. Oh, wait.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Riedle Oh, I see. So you are saying that the introduction of competition to Long distance had nothing to do with it?
lols

Uh, there's been many long distance companies for around 60 years. They only started dropping prices drastically when VOIP hit the scene.
Originally by: Riedle
Quote: Ok, i'll just go to their competitor who offers better prices.
Exactly.
Read the article. 
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Riedle I did read the article. Is Rogers not in Ontario?

I'm trying to find out if they offer any kind of bandwidth cap. But you're correct, there is an alternative.
At any rate, this doesn't set a good precedent.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 03/11/2010 16:21:31
Originally by: Riedle
Originally by: Aloe Cloveris
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Riedle I did read the article. Is Rogers not in Ontario?

I'm trying to find out if they offer any kind of bandwidth cap. But you're correct, there is an alternative.
At any rate, this doesn't set a good precedent.
Yep, Rogers is here and they certainly do have their bandwidth caps and overage penalties.
So there is compeition. That was my point. If enough people want an ulimited package then someone will offer it.
People and companies should not expect a free ride.
Free ride? Who the hell is talking about that? It's the same as your cable provider charging you more because you watch more TV.
Wait, are you just an American who doesn't like the idea Canadians have better internet plans?
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 03/11/2010 16:41:10
Originally by: Riedle
Quote: Free ride? Who the hell is talking about that? It's the same as your cable provider charging you more because you watch more TV.
Close - You pay more for HD right? HD signals carry 7x the amount of bandwidth of standard definition.
Well, it would be similar to a high bandwidth net connection, then. Why aren't we charged more for using it more? Makes as much sense.
Originally by: Riedle
Quote: Wait, are you just an American who doesn't like the idea Canadians have better internet plans?
Wha? I'm a Canuck. I have no idea what the American internet plans are or if ours are better or worse. I'm here to educate you on this issue it would seem.
In the states, like the UK, there are zero unlimited packages as far as i know, and this is the beginning of the same thing here. When it happens you can remember how much you fought to pay more.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 03/11/2010 16:47:43 I'm starting to suspect you have alot of stock in Bell.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Riedle Edited by: Riedle on 03/11/2010 16:49:51
Quote: But why are you fine with getting a 'free ride' from satellite and cable companies, but feel you should pay extra for using your net more? You're not making sense.
I see you are having a hard time with the subject material. I have already explained why they are fundamentally different.
Yeah, you edited that in while i was writing that.
Quote: A lot of Canadians with any amount of mutual funds have stock in Bell.
Ahh, so you're one of those people who'll make up all kinds of other reasons when it's really just a case of greed and self interest. I see now.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.03 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 03/11/2010 20:07:18 Yeah, like i`m going to let you drag me down to such a base level by arguing that arrogant garbage.
If mutual funds are your only hope i wish you well.
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